Unplugging the New World Order


Unplugging the New World Order

1.4.09 / Henry Makow

insanity.jpg by Henry Makow Ph.D.

If there were a webcam in the Monkey House at the local zoo, would you watch it?

Then, why watch TV or go to the movies? Why cruise the Internet or listen to most music? It’s the same thing: the chest pounding, screeching, defecating and copulating of monkeys. Of course humans outdo monkeys with mindless killing and mayhem.

If not a Monkey House, then the world increasingly resembles a hive which, thanks to the mass media, vibrates at the same frequency. For example, when the stock market is plummeting, everyone is panicking. (When Money is God, an economic downturn becomes a spiritual crisis.)

But there are other causes for the gloom: the spreading knowledge that our institutions (government, media, education, religion etc.) have been subverted and society now has no way of self-correcting.

The world feels like a roller coaster and we are holding on for dear life. Perhaps we need to let go. Perhaps we need to vibrate at our own unique frequency.

Perhaps I would be more effective if I devoted more energy to my private life. The external world is negating my private world even though it hasn’t physically impinged on it yet. I have impoverished myself by my constant focus on the Monkey House. I don’t think I am alone in this.

Our minds are like blotters, hoping to find a reflection of our ideals in the world. We need to turn the mirror around so the back faces the world. We need to use our personal lives (not the world) to reflect our ideals.

I envy people who can make God, Jesus or Mohamed the focus of all their thoughts. I often resolve to read the lives and saying of mystics. Clearly I need another focus. Family. Sports. A hobby. I’d like to hear from readers about how they have changed their focus.

TIME OUT

Feeling fatigued recently, I resolved to unplug the world for 24 hours. I would be a Robinson Crusoe of the soul. I put on a Gregorian chant and tried to meditate. It’s all about where we direct our attention minute-by-minute. I would focus on God. Order. Peace. Truth. Sanity. A calm came over me.

At the same time, I had to resist temptations which made me realize how addicted I am to my computer terminal. From that monitor l try to satisfy all my greed and desire. Down that chute come the corn niblets of encouraging news, email, book sales, stock quotes etc. I have to agree with the yogis who say suffering is due to seeking happiness outside ourselves.

Yet that’s all we do: manipulate the world to make us feel good. When will we realize we cannot feel good unless we are good?

How we hate to be alone. That’s why we are constantly talking on cell phones or watching TV. Why do we self-evade? As Paul Elmer More said, “we exhaust a great effort and expense to be poorly entertained.” Let us enjoy our selves.

After about four hours of meditating, I felt quite detached and refreshed, and started getting bored. So I broke down and checked my e-mail and the latest headlines on Rense. (I want to be in the world but not of it. I don’t want to be stranded in a limbo between two worlds.)

CONCLUSION

If we are engaged in a spiritual war, perhaps detaching from the world for set periods of time is the way to fight it. They seem to want to keep us in a state of high anxiety. They have been promising to invade Iran for six years. Is this the real agenda — to keep us at the edge of our seats?

I’m going to continue to fight the good fight. But maybe we can partially win if we don’t let the enemy into our home and heart.

Related- my “Surviving the New World Order”

Human DNA is backbone of a biological Internet

The human DNA is a biological Internet and superior in many aspects to the artificial one. The latest Russian scientific research directly or indirectly explains phenomena such as clairvoyance, intuition, spontaneous and remote acts of healing, self healing, affirmation techniques, unusual light/auras around people (namely spiritual masters), mind´s influence on weather patterns and much more. In addition, there is evidence for a whole new type of medicine in which DNA can be influenced and reprogrammed by words and frequencies WITHOUT cutting out and replacing single genes.

Only 10% of our DNA is being used for building proteins. It is this subset of DNA that is of interest to western researchers and is being examined and categorized. The other 90% are considered “junk DNA.” The Russian researchers, however, convinced that nature was not dumb, joined linguists and geneticists in a venture to explore those 90% of “junk DNA.” Their results, findings and conclusions are simply revolutionary!

According to them, our DNA is not only responsible for the construction of our body but also serves as data storage and in communication. The Russian linguists found that the genetic code, especially in the apparently useless 90%, follows the same rules as all our human languages. To this end they compared the rules of syntax (the way in which words are put together to form phrases and sentences), semantics (the study of meaning in language forms) and the basic rules of grammar.

They found that the alkalines of our DNA follow a regular grammar and do have set rules just like our languages. So human languages did not appear coincidentally but are a reflection of our inherent DNA.

The Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev and his colleagues also explored the vibrational behavior of the DNA. [For the sake of brevity I will give only a summary here. For further exploration please refer to the appendix at the end of this article.] The bottom line was: “Living chromosomes function just like solitonic/holographic computers using the endogenous DNA laser radiation.” This means that they managed for example to modulate certain frequency patterns onto a laser ray and with it influenced the DNA frequency and thus the genetic information itself.

Since the basic structure of DNA-alkaline pairs and of language (as explained earlier) are of the same structure, no DNA decoding is necessary. One can simply use words and sentences of the human language! This, too, was experimentally proven! Living DNA substance (in living tissue, not in vitro) will always react to language-modulated laser rays and even to radio waves, if the proper frequencies are being used. This finally and scientifically explains why affirmations, autogenous training, hypnosis and the like can have such strong effects on humans and their bodies. It is entirely normal and natural for our DNA to react to language. While western researchers cut single genes from the DNA strands and insert them elsewhere, the Russians enthusiastically worked on devices that can influence the cellular metabolism through suitable modulated radio and light frequencies and thus repair genetic defects.

Garjajev´s research group succeeded in proving that with this method chromosomes damaged by x-rays for example can be repaired. They even captured information patterns of a particular DNA and transmitted it onto another, thus reprogramming cells to another genome. So they successfully transformed, for example, frog embryos to salamander embryos simply by transmitting the DNA information patterns! This way the entire information was transmitted without any of the side effects or disharmonies encountered when cutting out and re-introducing single genes from the DNA.

This represents an unbelievable, world-transforming revolution and sensation! All this by simply applying vibration and language instead of the archaic cutting-out procedure! This experiment points to the immense power of wave genetics, which obviously has a greater influence on the formation of organisms than the biochemical processes of alkaline sequences.

Esoteric and spiritual teachers have known for ages that our body is programmable by language, words and thought. This has now been scientifically proven and explained. Of course the frequency has to be correct. And this is why not everybody is equally successful or can do it with always the same strength. The individual person must work on the inner processes and maturity in order to establish a conscious communication with the DNA. The Russian researchers work on a method that is not dependent on these factors but will ALWAYS work, provided one uses the correct frequency.

But the higher developed an individual´s consciousness is, the less need is there for any type of device! One can achieve these results by oneself, and science will finally stop to laugh at such ideas and will confirm and explain the results. And it doesn´t end there.

The Russian scientists also found out that our DNA can cause disturbing patterns in the vacuum, thus producing magnetized wormholes! Wormholes are the microscopic equivalents of the so-called Einstein-Rosen bridges in the vicinity of black holes (left by burned-out stars). These are tunnel connections between entirely different areas in the universe through which information can be transmitted outside of space and time. The DNA attracts these bits of information and passes them on to our consciousness. This process of hypercommunication is most effective in a state of relaxation.

Stress, worries or a hyperactive intellect prevent successful hypercommunication or the information will be totally distorted and useless. In nature, hypercommunication has been successfully applied for millions of years. The organized flow of life in insect states proves this dramatically. Modern man knows it only on a much more subtle level as “intuition.” But we, too, can regain full use of it.

An example from Nature: When a queen ant is spatially separated from her colony, building still continues fervently and according to plan. If the queen is killed, however, all work in the colony stops. No ant knows what to do. Apparently the queen sends the “building plans” also from far away via the group consciousness of her subjects.

She can be as far away as she wants, as long as she is alive. In man hypercommunication is most often encountered when one suddenly gains access to information that is outside one´s knowledge base. Such hypercommunication is then experienced as inspiration or intuition. The Italian composer Giuseppe Tartini for instance dreamt one night that a devil sat at his bedside playing the violin. The next morning Tartini was able to note down the piece exactly from memory, he called it the Devil´s Trill Sonata.

For years, a 42-year old male nurse dreamt of a situation in which he was hooked up to a kind of knowledge CD-ROM. Verifiable knowledge from all imaginable fields was then transmitted to him that he was able to recall in the morning. There was such a flood of information that it seemed a whole encyclopedia was transmitted at night. The majority of facts were outside his personal knowledge base and reached technical details about which he knew absolutely nothing.

When hypercommunication occurs, one can observe in the DNA as well as in the human being special phenomena. The Russian scientists irradiated DNA samples with laser light. On screen a typical wave pattern was formed. When they removed the DNA sample, the wave pattern did not disappear, it remained.

Many control experiments showed that the pattern still came from the removed sample, whose energy field apparently remained by itself. This effect is now called phantom DNA effect. It is surmised that energy from outside of space and time still flows through the activated wormholes after the DNA was removed. The side effect encountered most often in hypercommunication also in human beings are inexplicable electromagnetic fields in the vicinity of the persons concerned. Electronic devices like CD players and the like can be irritated and cease to function for hours. When the electromagnetic field slowly dissipates, the devices function normally again. Many healers and psychics know this effect from their work. The better the atmosphere and the energy, the more frustrating it is that the recording device stops functioning and recording exactly at that moment. And repeated switching on and off after the session does not restore function yet, but next morning all is back to normal.

Perhaps this is reassuring to read for many, as it has nothing to do with them being technically inept, it means they are good at hypercommunication. In their book “Vernetzte Intelligenz” (Networked Intelligence), Grazyna Gosar and Franz Bludorf explain these connections precisely and clearly.

The authors also quote sources presuming that in earlier times humanity had been, just like the animals, very strongly connected to the group consciousness and acted as a group. To develop and experience individuality we humans however had to forget hypercommunication almost completely. Now that we are fairly stable in our individual consciousness, we can create a new form of group consciousness, namely one, in which we attain access to all information via our DNA without being forced or remotely controlled about what to do with that information. We now know that just as on the internet our DNA can feed its proper data into the network, can call up data from the network and can establish contact with other participants in the network…remote healing, telepathy or “remote sensing” about the state of relatives etc.can thus be explained.

Some animals know also from afar when their owners plan to return home. That can be freshly interpreted and explained via the concepts of group consciousness and hypercommunication. Any collective consciousness cannot be sensibly used over any period of time without a distinctive individuality. Otherwise we would revert to a primitive herd instinct that is easily manipulated.

Hypercommunication in the new millennium means something quite different: Researchers think that if humans with full individuality would regain group consciousness, they would have a god-like power to create, alter and shape things on Earth! AND humanity is collectively moving toward such a group consciousness of the new kind. Fifty percent of today´s children will be problem children as soon as the go to school. The system lumps everyone together and demands adjustment. But the individuality of today´s children is so strong that that they refusethis adjustment and giving up their idiosyncrasies in the most diverse ways.

At the same time more and more clairvoyant children are born [see the book "China´s Indigo Children" by Paul Dong or the chapter about Indigos in my book "Nutze die taeglichen Wunder" (Make Use of the Daily Wonders)]. Something in those children is striving more and more towards the group consciousness of the new kind, and it will no longer be suppressed. As a rule, weather for example is rather difficult to influence by a single individual. But it may be influenced by a group consciousness (nothing new to some tribes doing it in their rain dances). Weather is strongly influenced by Earth resonance frequencies, the so-called Schumann frequencies. But those same frequencies are also produced in our brains, and when many people synchronize their thinking or individuals (spiritual masters, for instance) focus their thoughts in a laser-like fashion, then it is scientifically speaking not at all surprising if they can thus influence weather.

Researchers in group consciousness have formulated the theory of Type I civilizations. A humanity that developed a group consciousness of the new kind would have neither environmental problems nor scarcity of energy. For if it were to use its mental power as a unified civilization, it would have control of the energies of its home planet as a natural consequence. And that includes all natural catastrophes!!! A theoretical Type II civilization would even be able to control all energies of their home galaxy. In my book “Nutze die taeglichen Wunder,”

I have described an example of this: Whenever a great many people focus their attention or consciousness on something similar like Christmas time, football world championship or the funeral of Lady Diana in England then certain random number generators in computers start to deliver ordered numbers instead of the random ones. An ordered group consciousness creates order in its whole surroundings!!!

[http://noosphere.princeton.edu/fristwall2.html]

[1] When a great number of people get together very closely, potentials of violence also dissolve. It looks as if here, too, a kind of humanitarian consciousness of all humanity is created. At the Love Parade, for example, where every year about one million of young people congregate, there has never been any brutal riots as they occur for instance at sports events. The name of the event alone is not seen as the cause here. The result of an analysis indicated rather that the number of people was TOO GREAT to allow a tipping over to violence.

To come back to the DNA: It apparently is also an organic superconductor that can work at normal body temperature. Artificial superconductors require extremely low temperatures of between 200 and 140°C to function.

As one recently learned, all superconductors are able to store light and thus information. This is a further explanation of how the DNA can store information. There is another phenomenon linked to DNA and wormholes. Normally, these supersmall wormholes are highly unstable and are maintained only for the tiniest fractions of a second. Under certain conditions (read about it in the Fosar/Bludorf book above) stable wormholes can organize themselves which then form distinctive vacuum domains in which for example gravity can transform into electricity. Vacuum domains are self-radiant balls of ionized gas that contain considerable amounts of energy.

There are regions in Russia where such radiant balls appear very often. Following the ensuing confusion the Russians started massive research programs leading finally to some of the discoveries mentions above. Many people know vacuum domains as shiny balls in the sky. The attentive look at them in wonder and ask themselves, what they could be. I thought once: “Hello up there. If you happen to be a UFO, fly in a triangle.” And suddenly, the light balls moved in a triangle. Or they shot across the sky like ice hockey pucks. They accelerated from zero to crazy speeds while sliding gently across the sky.

One is left gawking and I have, as many others, too, thought them to be UFOs. Friendly ones, apparently, as they flew in triangles just to please me. Now the Russians found in the regions, where vacuum domains appear often that sometimes fly as balls of light from the ground upwards into the sky, that these balls can be guided by thought.

One has found out since that vacuum domains emit waves of low frequency as they are also produced in our brains. And because of this similarity of waves they are able to react to our thoughts. To run excitedly into one that is on ground level might not be such a great idea, because those balls of light can contain immense energies and are able to mutate our genes. They can, they don´t necessarily have to, one has to say.

For many spiritual teachers also produce such visible balls or columns of light in deep meditation or during energy work which trigger decidedly pleasant feelings and do not cause any harm. Apparently this is also dependent on some inner order and on the quality and provenance of the vacuum domain. There are some spiritual teachers (the young Englishman Ananda, for example) with whom nothing is seen at first, but when one tries to take a photograph while they sit and speak or meditate in hypercommunication, one gets only a picture of a white cloud on a chair. In some Earth healing projects such light effects also appear on photographs. Simply put, these phenomena have to do with gravity and anti-gravity forces that are also exactly described in the book and with ever more stable wormholes and hypercommunication and thus with energies from outside our time and space structure. Earlier generations that got in contact with such hypercommunication experiences and visible vacuum domains were convinced that an angel had appeared before them. And we cannot be too sure to what forms of consciousness we can get access when using hypercommunication.

Not having scientific proof for their actual existence (people having had such experiences do NOT all suffer from hallucinations) does not mean that there is no metaphysical background to it. We have simply made another giant step towards understanding our reality. Official science also knows of gravity anomalies on Earth (that contribute to the formation of vacuum domains), but only of ones of below one percent. But recently gravity anomalies have been found of between three and four percent. One of these places is Rocca di Papa, south of Rome (exact location in the book “Vernetzte Intelligenz” plus several others). Round objects of all kinds, from balls to full buses, roll uphill. But the stretch in Rocca di Papa is rather short, and defying logic sceptics still flee to the theory of optical illusion (which it cannot be due to several features of the location).

All informations are from the book “Vernetzte Intelligenz” von Grazyna Fosar und Franz Bludorf, ISBN 3930243237, summarized and commented by Baerbel. The book is unfortunately only available in German so far. You can reach the authors here: [www.fosar-bludorf.com] [2]; Transmitted by Vitae Bergman [www.ryze.com/view.php?who=vitaeb] [3]

===References:===

1. http://noosphere.princeton.edu/fristwall2.html 2. http://www.fosar-bludorf.com 3. http://www.ryze.com/view.php?who=vitaeb

David Icke Karma One Interview

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DAVID ICKE

After many years of investigations in the field of conspiracy theories, David Icke came to believe that our universe functions as a 3D illusory holographic model.

Based on the works of David Bohm , Karl Pribram, Michael Talbot and many others, Icke builds the Matrix assumption: the matters is a 3D illusion and our universe is the result of our collective web of perceptions. Our subconscious mind connected altogether works as a creator of perceptual fields. We finally create as a collective entity, a monster, some kind of Frankenstein like Icke says where the creator is outpaced by his creature, the Matrix. The so called “reptilian” plays the role of Agent Smith in the movie, controlling and ruling this world. The most fascinating aspect of his theory recalls us that everything is illusion, everything is believing, false convictions and most of the time, manipulations. You don’t need to be paranoid to see that our world works with desinformations and manipulations. David give us also some pertinent answers about our true origins and the origins of our perceptual universe It is a nice journey through the life of quantum particles.

You don’t have to agree with the Matrix theory of David who elaborate his model on the basis of a shamanic experience with the Ayahuasca, a so called sacred mixture from the Amazonian basin. Icke don’t belong to the scientific and intellectual Gotha , needless to say. You also don’t have to swallow the idea that some V.I.P are in fact shadowed or possessed by a reptilian entity. And in fact, why not? . But we think that those facts don’t be detrimental to the quality of his intuitions. We don’t have to forget that many theories that turned out to be correct started sometimes with dazzling and apparently irrational intuitions. Those who knows well the little world of conspiracy theories must admit that the Matrix model of David Icke give sense and meanings in an inescapably chaotic world. If you don’t understand French (to read the article from Karmapolis about it), read “Tales from the Time Loop” from David Icke (Bridge of Love Edition) and also some articles about the work of Pribram and Bohm. And as Gerry Zeitlin says, don’t think that our universe is in fact literally an hologram. The holographic model is just a metaphor to show us how it works. Then, read also the interview of Gerry. His views are quite different even if he agrees to some points to Icke’s theory.

Interview David Icke

Karma One: Beside the fact that the Matrix (and the human Mind) is his own source (“self ware” matrix as you said), what is the real source of the Matrix. Who or what create it and in which true purpose beside the fact to entrap us? Somebody or something must have the idea to create it? Who or what is this creator?

David Icke : I would say it is our own collective subconscious that has taken on a life and mind of its own. An ancient Hindu myth says that human consciousness had begun as a ripple that decided to leave the ocean of consciousness – the ‘timeless, spaceless and eternal’. When it awakened to itself in this ‘disconnected’ state, the myth said, it forgot that it was part of the infinite ocean and felt isolated and separated. This is pretty much what I am saying in my own way. In this disconnected state – like little lost children – we have collectively created the Matrix and become controlled and deluded by our own creation. I explain all this in detail in my new book, Infinite Love Is The Only Truth — Everything Else Is Illusion.

Karma One: You say that the Matrix is a kind of self sentient, conscient being, a kind of entity that is the source of our consensual reality. What is the true nature of this entity?

David Icke : It is consciousness that has lost its way also.  You could think of it as like a ‘Frankenstein’ consciousness that has taken over its creator. We are its prisoners while we remain in ignorance of our plight and believe that this ’world’ is ‘real’. It is not. It is a projected holographic illusion very much along the lines portrayed in the first Matrix movie.

Karma One : Do we really belong to the matrix or to something else? What are our true origins?

David Icke : Everything is infinite consciousness. At that level of awareness there is no ‘we’, only one infinite ‘I’. But in this reality we have been caught in the illusion of separation. We think in terms of parts, not the whole. This duality and polarity is the ultimate version of divide and rule. The Matrix (this illusory ‘world’) is what I call the holographic Internet. Our brains/DNA are like a computer terminal linked to the World Wide Web. When you log on a computer in China, America or France you are connecting with the same Internet – the same collective reality. What you make of it gives you your sense of individuality, but the basic collective reality is the same. For instance, we all see the same car or house, but differ on what we think of them. Our DNA/brain is like a computer, decoding frequency fields – thought fields – into what we perceive as a collective reality. The ‘world’ we think is around us only exists in our brain/DNA -  our biological computer. The Matrix works on the same principle as television which broadcasts programmes in wave form that the TV decodes into pictures. The only difference is that our DNA/brain decode wave forms into holographic – apparently 3D – pictures.

Karma One : The matrix create the reptilian and the Illuminati to fulfil the role of the agent Smith toward human being? Why the Matrix create those agent in such a form? Why the form of reptilian?

David Icke : They have been created as part of the illusion and to keep us in the illusion – very much along the lines of Agent Smith in the first Matrix movie. Reptilian genetics – a computer program in truth – appear to be very prevalent within the Matrix for reasons I explain in detail in the new book.

Karma One : If we follow you, because of the genetic blending and manipulation of humanity, we are in fact also reptilian in some ways?

David Icke : Oh yes … the oldest part of the human brain is known by scientists as the ‘R’ complex or reptilian brain. It is where we get the character traits of cold-bloodedness, lack of empathy, ritualistic behaviour and all the other traits that you find in abundance in the Illuminati. It is these characteristics that allow them to cause such death and destruction without a thought for the victims.

Karma One : Did the reptilian knows that they are “agents”, some kind of artificial creation without real soul?

David Icke : The Matrix is a multi-dimensional illusion – the ultimate smoke and mirrors game. What we have on earth with the Illuminati manipulating behind the scenes with even world leaders not knowing the true story is an expression of the way the Matrix as a whole operates. Very few know who the real master is or what they are really serving. I am convinced that the reptilians are a biological computer program very much along the lines of the ‘Woman in the Red Dress’ in the Matrix movie. They are not conscious in the way we understand that term. They are following their program. So soulless? Yes, in the way most people perceive ‘soul’.

Karma One : You seems to say that Godhead, Jesus and all this kind of entity are still creation of the matrix. So, they are also some kind of “agent Smith”?

David Icke : They don’t have to be a perceivable Agent Smith because these concepts are beliefs. The belief does not have to exist to control the perception and behaviour of the believer. It is the belief itself that is the source of control.

Karma One : Do you know that Carlos Castaneda present our Godhead (Jesus, the Paradise , etc…) the same way?

David Icke : No I didn’t.

Karma One : The concept of Paradise is always the Matrix. The Christian or Islamic paradise is still in the Matrix?

David Icke : Yes. I have a chapter in my new book called The God Program that makes this point very strongly.

Karma One : The New Age movement is also a conception of the Matrix? Do you believe as Clive Prince (Stargate conspiracy) that there is an hidden agenda to create a one world religion mixing old Egyptian knowledge, Mystery Religion and obedience to extraterrestrial ?

David Icke : Yes I do think these is validity in this. I think we have to be very careful about anyone or anything that presents a case for (a) giving your power away to anyone and (b) equates ‘One World’ with centralisation of power. We can come together as one humanity without having a few dictators running everything from a central point.

All dictators operate through centralisation of decision-making and the destruction of diversity.

In the case of the New Age, the answer is a another yes. Once again I have a chapter about this in the new book – Old Age, New Age – Same Story.

Karma One : All the extraterrestrial beings are trapped like we are in the same Matrix? The challenge is the same for us than for them: to get out of this matrix?

David Icke: Those beings that take apparently ‘physical’ form, yes. We and they are already out of the Matrix at the level of our infinite consciousness. It is our mental and emotional level that has become caught in the illusion that is the Matrix. It is not that we need to ‘get out’ of anywhere, more to realise that it is a multi-dimensional computer game that only exists in our lower mind and emotion.

Karma One : Is it possible to transmute the Matrix in a better thing? Or do you think that the Matrix will defend herself because the way “she” worked need to be predatory?

David Icke : When we change our collective perception the Matrix will change because it is the projection of our own subconscious. We are our own controllers! We change – it changes.

Karma One : Can we find some messages or messengers who warned us about the Matrix? Did you find an entity ( like some kind of Jesus Christ or something like that) who try to warn us about the true nature of the Matrix and the religion?

David Icke : The truth of what is happening is being broadcast all the time … just as you have the broadcasts from radio and television stations in the ‘space’ you are occupying now. The trick is to ‘tune’ into that knowledge. Most people are not operating on those higher frequencies, however, because of the way society is structured and information is suppressed. As we open to higher levels of awareness we develop a ‘knowing’ about the Matrix by accessing that information from the realms beyond its illusion.

Karma One : The Matrix seem to be a creation. So, does it start somewhere or is it an infinite creation without cause, without end?

David Icke : The concept of starting and ending is actually a Matrix illusion. There is no time, only our perception of it. It’s more like a circle of experience in which we go round and round symbolically while thinking we are going forward. The past, present and future are happening at the same ‘moment’. They are different ‘points’ in the circle, the cosmic merry-go-round that I call the time loop, hence my book, Tales From The Timeloop.

Karma One : Is it possible that other kind of Matrix systems exist based on fear or on something else?

David Icke : Absolutely, I think there are enormous numbers of them. They are probably what science calls ‘parallel universes’, although these may be different levels of the one Matrix.

Karma One : Why a kind of “God” or what we can call the Main Source, The ONE or whatever don’t fix the Matrix, don’t stop this process that seems useless and endless?

David Icke : I think we are in process that will lead to this, but there is a vast amount of knowledge and understanding that I have not yet accessed and I have as many questions as anyone.

Karma One : You says that we don’t need as conscience to “learn”, to live different lives because the One don’t need it. So why are we still pushed, caught or attracted in the Matrix?

David Icke : Why is the moth attracted to the light? Why is the mouse mesmerised by the eyes of the snake? Humanity is collectively hypnotised by the illusion, but more and more are starting to wake up.

Karma One : What is the difference between the concept of Good, Goodness in the Matrix and Good and Goodness outside the matrix, in the Infinite, the One Universe?

David Icke : The Matrix is founded on duality and polarity – opposites, or apparent opposites. So we perceive goodness and badness, light and dark, positive and negative. In the realms of Oneness in awareness of itself everything is one. So there is no good or bad. Everything just is. There is no light or dark, only the unity of all. I call it ‘isness’ and it has to be experienced to be fully understood.

Karma One : Why human being need to pass through the Matrix and a alienate experience to experiment life in 3D? To learn something ?

David Icke : They don’t need to pass through, they become caught in the spider’s web of the five senses and other related dimensions and forget who or what they really are. They believe the illusion is real and once that happens they are trapped. And you don’t seek to escape to something you don’t even know exists. Imagine sitting in a prison cell believing that it was everything. Why would you seek to leave when you thought there was nowhere else to go

Karma One : If the Matrix is a trap, an illusion and that our real belonging is in the Infinite, there is no moral consideration to prevent myself to leave this world if I consider it frankly as a lost of time (even if I’m not my better judge). So, in this system, who or what can prevent people to kill themselves.

David Icke : We can’t kill ourselves, except as an illusion, because there is no death, only a different state of being. ‘Physical death’ is part of the programming, but because we believe it in it we experience what we believe to be real.

In terms of taking your own life, it depends on the mental and emotional state of the person who leaves this world by what we call death. The Robin Williams movie, What Dreams May Come, captured this well when his wife killed herself because she was
so devastated by the death of her husband and children. She wentto a realm (another state of illusion) that matched her mental
and emotional state. It was a deeply dark place that we would call ‘Hell’, but it was just the projection of her own mind. In the same way, if we leave this ‘world’ by whatever means with a knowledge of who and what we really are, our experience will
reflect that knowledge, understanding and love. We are consciousness and we create our own reality whereever we are.

Karma One : The basic assumption that suicide is bad come from religions and religion is a believing. A Believing is an illusion? So, if a life is unbearable for somebody, nobody can forbid him to kill himself for moral reasons?

David Icke : We are eternal consciousness and death is an illusion, as I have said. However, suicide is, by its very nature, overwhelmingly the result of someone who is in a deep state of depression, fear and anquish. To take your life in that state will simply take you into another realm of experience that reflects that emotional trauma. A living ‘hell’ in this ‘world’ becomes a living ‘hell’ in another. That is why it is definitely not to be recommended

Karma One : You seems to says that the Matrix became with the time some kind of independent entity, some kind of Frankenstein where the creator was overtake, outrun by his creature. You says that if we change, the Matrix will change. But Let’s speculate: Even if we change our subconscious minds in a snap, don’t you think that the Matrix will defend itself and impeach that?

David Icke : I would say the Matrix is a projection of our own minds, indeed each of us lives in our own Matrix because of the way we each interpret reality. The Matrix may have taken on a life of its own, but in the end it depends upon us, its source, for survival. Put simply, if enough computers reprogram the Internet the nature of the Internet must change or even cease to operate. It is the same with the Matrix.

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